EQ2 Pet Classes

[alphaflyer]

I played a Beastlord in EQLive; which classes in EQ2 can have pets?
Now I don't mean pets for your house, but rather pets that beneficial
effects while adventuring.

[HelixStalwart]

Post by alphaflyer
I played a Beastlord in EQLive; which classes in EQ2 can have pets?
Now I don't mean pets for your house, but rather pets that beneficial
effects while adventuring.

Summoners are the ones with pets - read the classes descriptions on
the official website...

http://everquest2.station.sony.com/

[p***@nordebo.com]

Post by alphaflyer
I played a Beastlord in EQLive; which classes in EQ2 can have pets?
Now I don't mean pets for your house, but rather pets that beneficial
effects while adventuring.

Only summoners (a mage class) get pets, with two subclasses:
necromancer (evil, undead pets) and conjurer (good, elemental pets).
At least those are the classes for which pets are a core feature -
it's possible that some other classes may get pets at higher levels,
but those will likely be comparable to the druid pet in Everquest,
i.e. mostly useless.

[RJB]

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Post by alphaflyer
I played a Beastlord in EQLive; which classes in EQ2 can have pets?
Now I don't mean pets for your house, but rather pets that beneficial
effects while adventuring.

necromancer (evil, undead pets) and conjurer (good, elemental pets).
At least those are the classes for which pets are a core feature -
it's possible that some other classes may get pets at higher levels,
but those will likely be comparable to the druid pet in Everquest,
i.e. mostly useless.

Has anyone seen screenshots of the summoners' pets yet? I've looked on the
EQ2 site and haven't come across any. I'd really like to know if they look
similar to the Luclin graphic EQL pets or if they're remarkably different.

[Lance Berg]

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Post by alphaflyer
I played a Beastlord in EQLive; which classes in EQ2 can have pets?
Now I don't mean pets for your house, but rather pets that beneficial
effects while adventuring.

necromancer (evil, undead pets) and conjurer (good, elemental pets).
At least those are the classes for which pets are a core feature -
it's possible that some other classes may get pets at higher levels,
but those will likely be comparable to the druid pet in Everquest,
i.e. mostly useless.

Are you sure? While the druid pet is admittedly mostly useless, the
shaman pet in EQ1 doesn't come along till level 34, and yet is on a
power level with a mage pet; they get a new one frequently enough to
keep up, and its not till the higher end of the game that I've heard
anyone say the pet isn't pulling its weight (my shaman only leveled to
52, so I can't speak to the high end, but shaman friends as high as 65
still seemed to be getting better value from their pets than SK were, at
least until pet pulling took over from FD pulling and lull pulling.)

The cleric pet was also much more powerful than the druid pet, very
useful from around 54 to 60, only the fact that there was no upgrade
made it fade back down into the "useless" plane. The wizard pet was
essentially the same as the cleric pet, but not available till 58, so
its usefulness was in the 58-60 range, and wizards generally have better
uses for the mana, so it wasn't as interesting.

Thats not to say that the equivalents, if any, in EQ2 aren't going to
all be on the Druid line of useless, but if the only thing you are going
by is EQ1 equivalencies and guesswork, I think you're off track.

Grage

[Graeme Faelban]

Post by Lance Berg

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Post by alphaflyer
I played a Beastlord in EQLive; which classes in EQ2 can have pets?
Now I don't mean pets for your house, but rather pets that beneficial
effects while adventuring.

necromancer (evil, undead pets) and conjurer (good, elemental pets).
At least those are the classes for which pets are a core feature -
it's possible that some other classes may get pets at higher levels,
but those will likely be comparable to the druid pet in Everquest,
i.e. mostly useless.

Are you sure? While the druid pet is admittedly mostly useless, the
shaman pet in EQ1 doesn't come along till level 34, and yet is on a
power level with a mage pet; they get a new one frequently enough to
keep up, and its not till the higher end of the game that I've heard
anyone say the pet isn't pulling its weight (my shaman only leveled to
52, so I can't speak to the high end, but shaman friends as high as 65
still seemed to be getting better value from their pets than SK were, at
least until pet pulling took over from FD pulling and lull pulling.)

Shaman pet quality is generally noticably lower than Mage or Necro. Sks
get a very nice pet in OOW (their first really decent one I believe),
better than the OOW shaman pet.

[Lance Berg]

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Post by Lance Berg

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Post by alphaflyer
I played a Beastlord in EQLive; which classes in EQ2 can have pets?
Now I don't mean pets for your house, but rather pets that beneficial
effects while adventuring.

necromancer (evil, undead pets) and conjurer (good, elemental pets).
At least those are the classes for which pets are a core feature -
it's possible that some other classes may get pets at higher levels,
but those will likely be comparable to the druid pet in Everquest,
i.e. mostly useless.

Are you sure? While the druid pet is admittedly mostly useless, the
shaman pet in EQ1 doesn't come along till level 34, and yet is on a
power level with a mage pet; they get a new one frequently enough to
keep up, and its not till the higher end of the game that I've heard
anyone say the pet isn't pulling its weight (my shaman only leveled to
52, so I can't speak to the high end, but shaman friends as high as 65
still seemed to be getting better value from their pets than SK were,

at

Post by Lance Berg
least until pet pulling took over from FD pulling and lull pulling.)

Shaman pet quality is generally noticably lower than Mage or Necro. Sks
get a very nice pet in OOW (their first really decent one I believe),
better than the OOW shaman pet.

I played mage to 65 and shaman to 52, IMO the shaman pets I had weren't
much worse than the mage pets in the same level range, when both classes
were using theirs correctly. I'll admit that if you simply sic your
unbuffed pet on a mob, unsupported by the caster in any way, that the
mage pet will outperform the shaman pet. But a shaman pet can get a set
of mage gear and a set of shaman buffs (which for the most part
outperform mage pet buffs) and benefit from shaman slowing and shaman
healing, while the mage pet gets mostly inferior buffs and no slow.

I suppose with the advent of pets that zone with you, its more likely
that your mage pet will have a full set of uber buffs on him, and with
identical buffs the mage pet will have the edge.

HOWEVER all I'm really saying is that the shaman pet might lose but
would at least be competitive, while the druid pet is never anything
even close to a joke; saying that getting pets only at higher level
means they must be similar to the druid pet overlooks the shaman pet
model; quite useful and reasonably powerful, but you don't get one at
all till 34.

[Graeme Faelban]

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Post by Lance Berg

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Post by alphaflyer
I played a Beastlord in EQLive; which classes in EQ2 can have pets?
Now I don't mean pets for your house, but rather pets that
beneficial effects while adventuring.

necromancer (evil, undead pets) and conjurer (good, elemental pets).
At least those are the classes for which pets are a core feature -
it's possible that some other classes may get pets at higher levels,
but those will likely be comparable to the druid pet in Everquest,
i.e. mostly useless.

Are you sure? While the druid pet is admittedly mostly useless, the
shaman pet in EQ1 doesn't come along till level 34, and yet is on a
power level with a mage pet; they get a new one frequently enough to
keep up, and its not till the higher end of the game that I've heard
anyone say the pet isn't pulling its weight (my shaman only leveled
to 52, so I can't speak to the high end, but shaman friends as high
as 65 still seemed to be getting better value from their pets than SK
were,

at

Post by Lance Berg
least until pet pulling took over from FD pulling and lull pulling.)

Shaman pet quality is generally noticably lower than Mage or Necro.
Sks get a very nice pet in OOW (their first really decent one I
believe), better than the OOW shaman pet.

I played mage to 65 and shaman to 52, IMO the shaman pets I had
weren't much worse than the mage pets in the same level range, when
both classes were using theirs correctly. I'll admit that if you
simply sic your unbuffed pet on a mob, unsupported by the caster in
any way, that the mage pet will outperform the shaman pet. But a
shaman pet can get a set of mage gear and a set of shaman buffs (which
for the most part outperform mage pet buffs) and benefit from shaman
slowing and shaman healing, while the mage pet gets mostly inferior
buffs and no slow.

With the zoning pets, mage pets are likely to be at least as well buffed
as shaman pets, and start out significantly superior. Mage pets are also
more likely to have mage pet toys. I do buy the toys, when they are
available, which is not always, when I plan on seriously using my pet. I
just know that I've watched both mage and necro pets tank mobs that my
pet would not stand up to for more than a very few rounds at best. The
OOW SK pet will outtank the OOW shaman pet, given equivalent gear and
buffs, quite handily.

Post by Lance Berg
I suppose with the advent of pets that zone with you, its more likely
that your mage pet will have a full set of uber buffs on him, and with
identical buffs the mage pet will have the edge.
HOWEVER all I'm really saying is that the shaman pet might lose but
would at least be competitive, while the druid pet is never anything
even close to a joke; saying that getting pets only at higher level
means they must be similar to the druid pet overlooks the shaman pet
model; quite useful and reasonably powerful, but you don't get one at
all till 34.

No question, the shaman pet is useful, I use mine a lot for xping, not
farming.

[p***@nordebo.com]

Post by Lance Berg

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Post by alphaflyer
I played a Beastlord in EQLive; which classes in EQ2 can have pets?
Now I don't mean pets for your house, but rather pets that beneficial
effects while adventuring.

necromancer (evil, undead pets) and conjurer (good, elemental pets).
At least those are the classes for which pets are a core feature -
it's possible that some other classes may get pets at higher levels,
but those will likely be comparable to the druid pet in Everquest,
i.e. mostly useless.

[snip]

Post by Lance Berg
Thats not to say that the equivalents, if any, in EQ2 aren't going to
all be on the Druid line of useless, but if the only thing you are
going by is EQ1 equivalencies and guesswork, I think you're off track.

I'm going off guesswork and EQ2 spell lists, but not EQ equivalencies.
I saw no indication in the published spell lists that any
non-summoners would get pets of comparable power to even shaman pets
in EQ. There are various "pets" for non-summoners, but few of them
are of the persistent controllable type that most EQ pets are
(including the druid pet) - they are, I think, comparable to the
cleric/wizard poofy pets, mostly. To me those aren't proper pets, and
in the sense the original poster meant it I think only summoner pets
are interesting, but I should perhaps not have ignored the other pets.

Looking closer at various spell lists I see there are more pets than I
thought there were - I must have been sloppy reading the lists before.
Perhaps some of these pets are useful enough to make those classes
proper pet classes. Cleric subclasses and rangers have a single pet
spell at higher levels that doesn't sound terribly limited, but I
doubt it's going to be that powerful.

[Foxeye Vaeltaja]

Cleric subclasses and rangers have a single pet spell at higher levels
that doesn't sound terribly limited, but I doubt it's going to be that
powerful.

Do you really mean *cleric* subclasses?! Or is that a typo and you meant
shaman/druid? If templars and inquisitors get pets I'mna be so
happy...maybe I get, like, my own devoted clerk who waves incense and
prepares my sermons...wooohooo!

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Foxeye Vaeltaja EQ: 65 Forest Stalker (Xev) - retired
http://www.foxeye-art.com Horizons: 10 Monk/Druid/Outfitter (Dawn)
http://www.the-luggage.com

[p***@nordebo.com]

Post by Foxeye Vaeltaja

Cleric subclasses and rangers have a single pet spell at higher levels
that doesn't sound terribly limited, but I doubt it's going to be that
powerful.

Do you really mean *cleric* subclasses?! Or is that a typo and you meant
shaman/druid? If templars and inquisitors get pets I'mna be so
happy...maybe I get, like, my own devoted clerk who waves incense and
prepares my sermons...wooohooo!

Both Inquisitor and Templar get an "Adept" pet at level 45. See
http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/list/skills.php for handy ability/spell
lists (not complete, I think, but the best I've been able to find).

[Foxeye Vaeltaja]

Post by p***@nordebo.com
Both Inquisitor and Templar get an "Adept" pet at level 45. See
http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/list/skills.php for handy ability/spell
lists (not complete, I think, but the best I've been able to find).

AAAAAAIIIIYYY!!! That is so awesome. I WOULD get my own lackey. Hahahaha.
I hope he has robes and is partially bald.

And thank you for the link. :)


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Foxeye Vaeltaja EQ: 65 Forest Stalker (Xev) - retired
http://www.foxeye-art.com Horizons: 10 Monk/Druid/Outfitter (Dawn)
http://www.the-luggage.com

[RJB]

Post by Foxeye Vaeltaja
I hope he has robes and is partially bald.

This just sounds.... sexual.

[Davian]

Post by Lance Berg
52, so I can't speak to the high end, but shaman friends as high as 65
still seemed to be getting better value from their pets than SK were, at
least until pet pulling took over from FD pulling and lull pulling.)

Talk about damning with faint praise....